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The Fox
31-05-2005, 09:30 PM
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Especificações Siemens (PDF) (http://communications.siemens.com/repository/1062/106295/C75_Datasheet.pdf)
VGA-Digitalcamera with flash
Display 132 x 176 Pixeln,65.536 colours
103 x 44 x 17 mm
3D-animated menue
10 MByte memory
GSM 900, 1.800 ,1.900 MHz
GPRS class 10.
WAP 2.0
Infrared
E-Mail-Client POP3- /IMAP4
Instant-Messaging-Client
Java-Engine
polyphonic ringtones
Organizer
90 g
August 2005
Light Silver
Sobressai a câmara VGA numa altura em qua quase todas as marcas andam para cima de 1 MP e a diminuição das dimensões do ecrã comparativamente com o CX65... Há mesmo quem diga que é uma espécie de CX65 mais barato... Esta aposta da Siemens só irá afundar mais ainda esta marca... esta é a minha opinião... ninguém quer hoje em dia câmaras VGA...
E o design não vos faz lembrar nada? :lol:
velas
31-05-2005, 10:21 PM
Pelo que já li sobre este modelo, deverá ter um preço bombástico. Talvez daí a camara VGA.
The Fox
31-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Pois... realmente prevê-se um preço mais baixo... mas na minha opinião poderiam ter feito um pouco melhor, se bem que do design só não gosto muito do teclado e seu grafismo, de resto está bem giro!
MacGyver
31-05-2005, 11:37 PM
Pelo que já li sobre este modelo, deverá ter um preço bombástico. Talvez daí a camara VGA.
Bombástico ou não, depende do preço!!!
só 1 pequeno reparo....
Aquele teclado e a forma das teclas, não sei bem porquê, é muito semelhante ao meu SE T610!!!
:furioso:
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 07:53 AM
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E o design não vos faz lembrar nada? :lol:
Nao.
Quanto a camara VGA, sabes por acaso o que sao teleles para os segmentos medio-baixo? Sabes aonde se insere a gama C da Siemens?Se nao sabes eu posso explicar, mais uma vez...Daqui a pouco vais querer que na gama mais baixa ate' haja 1GB memory stick para MP3 e mais outras coisas.
The Fox
01-06-2005, 09:25 AM
Nao.
Quanto a camara VGA, sabes por acaso o que sao teleles para os segmentos medio-baixo? Sabes aonde se insere a gama C da Siemens?Se nao sabes eu posso explicar, mais uma vez...Daqui a pouco vais querer que na gama mais baixa ate' haja 1GB memory stick para MP3 e mais outras coisas.
Conversa da treta para dissipar esta má ideia e para defender o "fanatismo Siemens" é assim que resumo a tua conversa.
Quando a Nokia lançou o 6020 com PTT e com Camara VGA e o 6021 sem câmara mas com BT, veio toda a gente dizer isto e aquilo... sei muito bem onde se insere a gama C da SIemens, mas daqui a nada deveria ser ou A ou B mesmo...
The Fox
01-06-2005, 09:30 AM
Para quem não vê diferenças nenhumas... ou não quer ver ou está a precisar de óculos...
http://www.cellular4.com/sony-ericsson/k700.jpg
http://www.freemobile.biz/images/phone_images/Sony%20Ericsson%20T630.jpg
http://www.first-handyshop.de/handy/Nokia/6020/nokia-6020-1.jpg
http://imgs.idnes.cz/telefony/A050530_JM_SIEMENS_C75_02_N.JPG
Quem não vir diferenças... (PS-Para mim o Nokia também é uma "imitação", não ao estilo do K700, mas mais do T630)
Jakob
01-06-2005, 10:04 AM
Acho k para uma gama mais baixa da siemens esta optimo.... esta mesmo excelente.... so falta o bluetooth
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 10:10 AM
Conversa da treta para dissipar esta má ideia e para defender o "fanatismo Siemens" é assim que resumo a tua conversa.
Quando a Nokia lançou o 6020 com PTT e com Camara VGA e o 6021 sem câmara mas com BT, veio toda a gente dizer isto e aquilo... sei muito bem onde se insere a gama C da SIemens, mas daqui a nada deveria ser ou A ou B mesmo...
Conversa da treta? Tu so' te enterras e como nao consegues justificar as tuas afirmacoes dizes que os outros sao fanaticos...
Em relacao ao 6020 caro amigo sao mais que justificadas as criticas que se fizeram... porque e' um 6020 e nao um 3200 ou coisa parecida (so' para dar
o exemplo)... e ja' andavam ai os primeiros teleles a mostrar camaras perto ou maiores que os megapixels...
E pelos vistos parece que nao conheces mesmo a gama da Siemens....
E fanatico sou eu
...
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 10:16 AM
Quanto as copias e ao precisar de oculos...Nao atinges mesmo... tenho de fazer o desenho..teria de comecar pelo ecran, cujo formato ja' vem do ST55...
Chegou-se a um ponto que e' praticamente impossivel lancar um modelo que que nao haja semelhancas com teleles que nao estejam ja' no mercado... e' dificil perceber isto? Valha a verdade que se diga que nas tentativas de lancar modelos de formato diferente, a Nokia e' a marca que mais tenta... o que
se explica pelo numero de modelos que lancam ca para fora a toda a hora (alguns com software semelhante... so' mudam as capas/formatos). Valha a verdade tambem que com rarissimas excepcoes, todas as tentativas da Nokia em inovar nos formatos , deu m*erd*.
Se por requintes de mesquinhez tivermos de ir ao ponto de verificar quem copia quem, entao para a Siemens eu reclamava os teleles com ecran a cores, teleles de tampa deslizante, filesystem, firmwares via net... tudo o que saiu depois disto seriam copias feitas a' Siemens... que ridiculo!!!!
velas
01-06-2005, 11:47 AM
Oh Rui, não achas que estás a fazer uma tempestade num copo de água?
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Quando escrevem que sou fanatico e que preciso de oculos, nao...
Curioso que aponto falhas a Siemens sempre que necessario (como sabes muito bem) mas os amigos que gostam da Nokia, na grande maioria esquivam-se...
The Fox
01-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Quando escrevem que sou fanatico e que preciso de oculos, nao...
Curioso que aponto falhas a Siemens sempre que necessario (como sabes muito bem) mas os amigos que gostam da Nokia, na grande maioria esquivam-se...
Argumentes o que quiseres, o C75 é da mesma gama que o 6020, portanto se afirmas que a crítica a um estava bem...assumes que a crítica a este é a mesma!
Não se trata de se enterrar ou não, pois com estes teus ultimos tópicos já se viu a tua baralhação numa apressada justificação para mais um modelo que vai ser um falhanço para a Siemens tal como foi o CX65, o SL65, S65 e por aí fora, até ao ponto da Siemens estar na situação em que está...
Quando falas que o 6020 veio com câmara VGA quando ous outros andavam com câmara Megapixel... pois... e o C75 com câmara VGA quando os outros andam com camara 2MP?
Ah pois é...
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 01:06 PM
Sim, pois e', que grande confusao que vai na tua cabeca...
O que tem a ver a situacao da Siemens com o que estamos aqui a falar?????
O problema da Siemens nunca foi vendas, continua no Top 5, o problema e' rentabilidade o que e' uma situacao totalmente diferente, nao e' a primeira vez que te chamo a atencao em relacao a isto, informa-te antes de escrever ... quem anda embaralhado deves ser tu...
Quanto as vendas da serie 65 tambem estas um bocado embaralhado. O lancamento foi um desastre devido a um problema de software resolvido em 3 semanas... as vendas nao sendo nada por ai alem sao bem melhores que alguns desastres da marca finlandesa que todos conhecemnos.
Quanto a' forma como a Nokia segmenta as gamas nos seus telemoveis e como a Siemens o faz, e' melhor meteres na cabeca que o directo competidor do 6020 (que internamente e' uma copia quase perfeita do 3220!!!) a' data de lancamento era o CX65.
Cuidado com as comparacoes desastradas que fazes em relacao as camaras, volto a escrever, daqui a pouco temos o 3220 ou o A65 com camara de 2mp, radio rds, memory stick de 1gb e por ai fora...
Realmente...
The Fox
01-06-2005, 01:13 PM
:lol:
Ninguém tem culpa que a gama baixa da Nokia tipo 3200 e isso como dizes não dê hipotese á série A da Siemens... a não ser que lancem a Série B... o 6020 da Nokia é da mesma classe que este C75, logo, as críticas que dizes existirem (e que concordo) aplicam-se na íntegra a este novo modelo... mas o confuso sou eu...
Siemens não é vendas... então é bom e não tem vendas? Teêm os melhores telefones e não têm vendas? Têm o melhor relação preço/qualidade/características e não se vende?
Algo aqui está errado...
Desculpas apressadas e baralhadas.
Mas realmente nem sei porque se está a discutir isto, pois o topico é sobre o "maravilhoso C75" :lol:
Tirando o teclado e o grafismo usado até que é giro... continuo a dizer o mesmo.
Rui, não vale a pena andármos em off-topic. :lol:
Na minha opinião o telefone é muito aprecido com o K700, 6020 e T630/T610 e já houve aqui quem visse essas parecenças mesmo antes de eu ter posto as fotos... portanto não sou só eu..
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RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 01:18 PM
Estas no teu direito. O que tens de perceber e' que nao podes dizes que e' um CX65 mais barato ou coisa que o valha. Gama 65 e' uma coisa, gama 75 e' outra.
Hubble_
01-06-2005, 01:20 PM
Pra mim o tlm tá mais parecido, exterior principalmente, com o Sharp GX15 do que com qq um dos tlms acima mencionados...
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 01:33 PM
A conclusao e' so' uma: Cada cabeca sua sentenca... e so' prova o que escrevi atras sobre "copias"...
The Fox
01-06-2005, 02:17 PM
Pra mim o tlm tá mais parecido, exterior principalmente, com o Sharp GX15 do que com qq um dos tlms acima mencionados...
Também concordo, e também acho o GX15 muito parecido com o T630/T610.
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 02:22 PM
FOX,
O Hubble diz que e' parecido com o Sharp... daqui a pouco e' parecido com tudo o que existe no mercado...ridiculo, so' prova o meu ponto de vista
Quanto a' serie A, B e C e coisas do genero acho que deves e' ver o que escreves... Siemens seria A da' literalmente tareia nos modelos mais baixos da da concorrencia (incluindo alguns Nokia), especialmente nos mercados de leste e Asiatico. E' responsavel em grande parte pela Siemens estar no Top 5 do mundo
Quanto as vendas, TMN vende mais e e' a melhor rede????? Nokia vende mais e tem os melhores telemoveis???? nem por sombras... A Nokia tem a melhor relacao preco qualidade????? Tem as melhores caracteristicas???????
Esta' bem esta'... E' so' marketing...
E, Pela ultima vez, o concorrente directo do 6020 E' O CX65. Se tens duvidas vai ler a critica feita ao Nokia na mais que suspeita Mobile Review, que da Siemens poucos elogios faz...
The Fox
01-06-2005, 02:32 PM
Rui, mantém-te on-topic sff.
Obrigado :yoga:
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 02:34 PM
eu mantenho-me on topic, mas neste assunto havia um esclarecimento a fazer... fizeste uma seire de perguntas a que faltavam respostas
Hubble_
01-06-2005, 02:37 PM
Porra, quando vcs 2 começam a discutir Nokia vs. Siemens é pior que dois adeptos discutindo futebol! :furioso:
The Fox
01-06-2005, 02:59 PM
eu mantenho-me on topic, mas neste assunto havia um esclarecimento a fazer... fizeste uma seire de perguntas a que faltavam respostas
LOL E olha que para as tuas respostas mais valia estares calado... mas pronto.
O assunto é C75 agora que já deste as tuas respostas.
Obrigado
RUI JORGE SILVA
01-06-2005, 03:19 PM
acabar com polemicas:
achas que estas com razao entao convido-te a abrir um topico sobre este assunto e vamos para la', pode ser que eu aprenda umas coisas contigo... Eu nao o abro, porque na realidade nem preciso, sei muito bem de que lado esta a razao. e nao respondo a mais provocacoes do genero "mais valia estar calado".
Se e' para teres a ultima palavra faz favor e enterra a cabeca na areia como as avestruzes
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Com o resto concordo : nem mais uma linha fora do topico caso contrario vai fora.
O C75
Jakob
01-06-2005, 04:27 PM
Ainda por cima são dois moderadores..... então se não fosse.... ui ui....
HEHEHE
Siemens Rula.....
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